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May 28, 2013 at 8:25 pm #43008BruceMMember
I am a having a new psd design being made for my wordpress site and will then give it to a developer to turn into css/html. I'm wondering whether I bother sticking with the Genesis framework as the design will be new?
However I think I'm "not seeing the forest for the trees" and forgetting that the framework is more than just design. But the Genesis feature list isn't terribly helpful in answering this question.
May 28, 2013 at 11:01 pm #43017Brad DaltonParticipantIs there a better framework than Genesis? Personally, i don't think so and especially now that 2.0 has been released and includes child theme support for HTML 5 that has many benefits including for SEO.
I think a new PSD design with Genesis 2.0 and HTML5 is putting on the bleeding edge of technology when it comes to WordPress and designing with WordPress.
No other framework makes it as easy to design with WordPress as Genesis does in my opinion. That's what its built for.
This is the best time to start using Genesis to built your WordPress site.
May 28, 2013 at 11:59 pm #43020BruceMMemberI've previously used a number of themes myself (I'm a consultant not a designer/developer), and have been around for 5 years using Genesis (after the Thesis controversy blew up anyhow). But I've decided to use an external designer this time to get something I couldn't find in Genesis themes or do myself using a Child theme.
So I'm not worried about the design element as design is being done by a designer. I'm more thinking do I bother getting a normal convert PSD to HTML/CSS from the likes of www.psd2html.com. Or do I spend a lot more money for someone to convert the PSD to Genesis framework (a whole day according to the link).
The benefit would be easy manipulation of the site after it goes live with hooks and... Schemas I can get from plugins, SEO I get from Yoast.
As far as I can see, which is why I'm worried I'm not seeing the "forest", Genesis is great for designers but does not have much benefit if you've gone outside of Genesis for design.
Your thoughts? I'm reckon I'm confused and am missing something here.
May 29, 2013 at 3:24 pm #43127BruceMMemberbump
May 29, 2013 at 8:23 pm #43142SummerMember@BruceM, are you saying that you wouldn't want to make your new design be a custom Genesis child theme, or did I misunderstand the question?
I have sometimes been frustrated at the lack of diversity amongst Genesis child themes, and sometimes when I find a different one, it doesn't stay on the market long or needs a lot more under-the-hood work to bring it into full Genesis-powered goodness.
But then whenever I venture out of the playground to use a WP theme by someone else, I get smacked upside the back of the head in a harsh reminder why I love the ease of use and peace of mind that comes with using Genesis child themes. It's the biggest reason I ran away screaming from WooThemes after their shoddy coding caused me to lose money on two projects about a year and a half ago.
If I were a stronger PHP coder, I'd be tackling the idea of converting a theme I bought to upgrade one of my video sites to be a Genesis child theme and thereby cut the bloat and the errors that are all throughout that otherwise very cool theme. I'd also be customizing Metro 10 different ways from Sunday to use on everything 🙂
I guess I don't understand why your developer would charge you more to convert a PSD to a Genesis child theme than they would to a standalone theme... the principle's the same, and outside of the custom CSS, you might actually have less need to create all the various templates with a child theme than with a standalone theme.
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Slice of SciFi | Writers, After DarkMay 29, 2013 at 10:33 pm #43153Brad DaltonParticipantGo with Genesis 2.0 and build your site using the Genesis 2.0 sample theme which supports HTML5. This is no better.
May 29, 2013 at 10:48 pm #43154BruceMMember@Summer, good points,
I have sometimes been frustrated at the lack of diversity amongst Genesis child themes, and sometimes when I find a different one, it doesn’t stay on the market long or needs a lot more under-the-hood work to bring it into full Genesis-powered goodness.
But then whenever I venture out of the playground to use a WP theme by someone else, I get smacked upside the back of the head in a harsh reminder why I love the ease of use and peace of mind that comes with using Genesis child themes. It’s the biggest reason I ran away screaming from WooThemes after their shoddy coding caused me to lose money on two projects about a year and a half ago.
Reminds me of helping others out with their problems. I'll get it coded with Genesis 2.0. Anyone know how much it generally costs?
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