Genesis rip-off?

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    RavenManiac
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    I just discovered that one of my local competitors is using the company I linked below, who apparently have some sort of parent-child theme technology similar to Genesis. Does anyone know anything about this company? Why is Genesis better than these guys?

    http://themefuse.com

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    AC
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    Why would you say “rip off?”

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    RavenManiac
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    Well, perhaps rip-off is the wrong terminology.

    I’ll rephrase my question. Is this a parent-child theme system similar to Genesis? What are the benefits of choosing Genesis over ThemeFuse?

    After a LOT of research, I decided to go with Genesis for my own company. I’m just making sure I didn’t miss anything.

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    AC
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    Ok, so now you have rephrased the question. They are offering “themes” and not a framework. What you buy is what you buy. You aren’t buying a child theme, you are buying a fully functioning theme. You go in, you set it up… just like you see in their demos. Now, can you do to them what you can do with Genesis? Probably not. With Genesis, you can easily go in an manipulate things the way you want them, easily add things, remove things. But, with a theme like the ones they make on the other site – it’s not that easy to do. Also, they have a lot of built-in functions and plugin code. So for example, say there is a calendar plugin for WordPress – some theme developers will take the plugin code – add it to the theme itself so when you download it you don’t have to add the plugin. The problem with all of these high functioning themes with all those bells & whistles is that if one little thing breaks – your whole site is broken. Genesis doesn’t add all those bells & whistles in there and I love it that way. If a plugin needs updating I can do it myself.

    Here’s a client case I had. She used a theme for a magazine that had the social media widgets, events calendar and music all included with the theme. When WordPress was updated, the events calendar and social media widgets (Facebook facepile, Twitter timeline) stopped working. Why? Because 1) with the events calendar they included, their javascript was old and needed to be updated and 2) the social media widgets – Facebook and Twitter both decided that you needed an API key to use those which required users to log in to their own Facebook/Twitter accounts to get the API. Well, the theme developer didn’t have a way to do that. So guess what… the developer told my client “revert back to the previous version of WordPress and the site will go back to the way it was and the features will work again.” The client did all that work and the site was still broken. Needless to say, that’s how they ended up with Genesis – because the theme they purchased from a developer like that – couldn’t provide the support and fix their own theme!

    Another developer used a plugin with their theme that once it was updated, the plugin stopped working. Instead of making his theme compliant to work with their themethe new plugin update – he emailed the “old working plugin” back to the client and said “downgrade” your plugin and the feature will start working again.

    That’s just two instances of what I’ve been through. Not sure what everyone else goes through. But… sometimes… what looks good on the outside may not be good on the inside. They may be pretty but they can be pretty ugly in there.

    Not to mention you have access to this forum for help, great Support from Studiopress and just a community of fabulous Genesis people you can use as a resource. Do they have all of that?

    They have a free version on their site to download. Download it and try it.

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    Kraft
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    Hi,

    I haven’t used Theme Fuse nor seen the code, so can’t comment directly a point-by-point on which is better. As far as Genesis, I used it after seeing the community of developers working with the software. The forums, the #genesiswp Twitter hashtag, the third-party devs building plugins and wriiting tutorials, etc are excellent sources of information, tips, suggestions, best practices and more.

    The team of contributors to Genesis core (both StudioPress folks and community developers who help) have a strong passion to make the best possible parent theme that are easy to extend with relatively little code. Genesis is regularly updated while keeping Genesis lean and simple (e.g. no kitchen sink of unneeded things for show and flash). The licensing is supportive of developers and the free upgrades to Genesis core ensures your client sites can stay with the latest and greatest.

    In short, I have zero hesitation in recommending Genesis. It’s solid.


    Brandon Kraft
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    RavenManiac
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    Anita, thank you very much for your prompt response and insight.

    No need to download the free demo. I’d rather spend that time learning Genesis and WordPress. The reason I asked the question is I often assume that my competitors are smarter than I am, which, in this case, they clearly are not. I should spend more time focusing on my business and less time worrying about what the other guys are doing. Thanks for setting me straight. :)

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    Andrea Rennick
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    The parent-child theme relationship is a WordPress standard not specific to Genesis.

    http://codex.wordpress.org/Child_Themes

    Anyone can create a WordPress parent theme with child themes.


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    AC
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    @ravenmaniac, be sure to check out @Kraft‘s response above, as well as Andrea’s!

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