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July 18, 2014 at 5:11 pm #114852dsimmsMember
Ok, I admit, I am not really sure what Genesis is...
This is how someone explained it to me...
WP = The car/engine
Genesis = The framework to the car
Gen Skin = Paint job to the frameworkI understand that much...
But what is Genesis compared to just having a WordPress Blog?
Thanks
July 18, 2014 at 7:08 pm #114865ShariLeeMemberI don't mean to sound flip here, but a WordPress blog without genesis would be like buying a completely basic car with nothing in or on it but what it absolutely needs to get you from point A to point B.
Genesis framework has made the difference for me because the level of frustration that comes with trying to get a basic theme (which you must have) to do anything but exactly what it looks like when you choose it --is like tearing your hair out.
Child Themes that work in concert with Genesis are amazing, and they are professional looking with tons of flexibility. Hope this helps...
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GoldaVere IMSJuly 18, 2014 at 7:41 pm #114869dsimmsMemberWp themes look just as basic and simple as genesis themes...
So if WP itself is just a car with no options...
Then what is Genesis with options?Its not like there is a genesis demo and that
is what I am asking. I cant see what it can do,
so I am not really sure what it dose or can do.....Frustration I understand 🙂
July 18, 2014 at 7:47 pm #114871SummerMemberI think the original explanation should have been more like this:
WordPress = basic fully functional car, no paint job yet
WordPress themes = paint job
premium WordPress themes = custom paint job
frameworks = custom high end interior & engine work
child themes for those frameworks = custom high end body work, suspenion kits and paint jobsI am not going to start any discussions over which theme shops represent the best NOS kits 🙂
Different frameworks meet different needs for different end users and designers. But knowing how the different pieces work together, including understanding whether or not you need the high end gear, is important.
The high end stuff most of the time comes with higher maintenance costs, just like the difference between a Ferrari and a Toyota, but sometimes the quality difference is similar to that between a reliable midsize with a good performance history and something like the Yugo or Pinto.
You don't need Genesis in order to have a WordPress website. But eventually, you may come to realize that you want it, and would never want to have another WP website without it.
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Slice of SciFi | Writers, After DarkJuly 18, 2014 at 8:15 pm #114873dsimmsMemberYou have explained it much better 🙂
I believe in quality...When I set something up, regardless of site or blog...
then I overall think about what I am setting up...Do i want to set up
another Basic WP Car with no paint job, or do I go with the custom
high end interior & engine work w custom high end body work,
suspension and paint job.... 🙂But I suspect even you would not buy anything high end
unless you knew what to expect out of it...So If I need to be a coder/design in order to uttilize this high end then
this will surely be no use to me/ but if I am able to utiltize options
to arrange sections the way I want, then maybe it will work...I have bought scripts/software before that looked very promising...
(But only if i were a coder...)If Genesis is going to be complex for a blog then,
I do not want to fall into that same trap again...I would like the high end custom stuff...
But it has to be 100% user friendly...
not 100% coder friendly...if you know what i mean...July 18, 2014 at 9:53 pm #114879SummerMemberIt depends on how much you want the child theme changed before you start using it.
You can, very easily, install Genesis and a child theme that you like the look of, and start blogging immediately. Child themes from Studio Press do work right out of the box, and you don't have to do anything beyond activating the child theme to get started.
You could even make do with the sample child theme that comes with Genesis, just to get your feet wet and learn your way around before buying another child theme.
There are some customizations you can do from the Genesis admin dashboard, without knowing any code, like changing the color scheme, and setting how many posts show up on a page, and there might be some others that you'd need to know a little bit of CSS or PHP to adjust.
But you don't have to know code in order to use it... that comes later when you want to add another layer of flames or dragons to your paint job 🙂
There is a bit of a learning curve for Genesis, even more so if you are a WordPress newbie too. But I believe you'd get better theme support from the official StudioPress support team and from the forums here than you might get in the WP.org support forums.
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Slice of SciFi | Writers, After DarkJuly 19, 2014 at 1:13 am #114899dsimmsMemberI do not like to distract readers with flames and dragons 🙂
over all, the content is more important then how fancy the design is...
You can have the best design in the world, but if no one is
reading the content, then flames/dragons not matter so much 🙂But I do have one little question, I am looking at a theme, and the content section
looks a little narrow, what is the best way to change that ie: widen the content area,
would also like to drak'n the text just a bit more. Can these be done without
changing css, or can I do this with the palette pro plugin, and I know with that
you can change all sorts of googles which is fine, but content/text is the question right now....Thanks
July 19, 2014 at 10:34 am #114925SummerMemberFrom what I understand, plugins like Design Palette Pro and Genesis Extender can do this, but they are changing the CSS for you, just without you knowing the exact code for what to do or how to do it 🙂
But yes, CSS changes would be needed to make certain areas different sizes. Also, unless the font has been intentionally lightened, I don't know that it can be made "darker"... heavier might be possible, but you can't get a font darker than #000000 if it's already set to that.
Which child theme did you have in mind?
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