January 14, 2013 at 7:32 pm #11980
What I had:
A brand new website with the following installed: wordpress 3.5, genesis 1.9, magazine child theme, akismet plugin and wordpress SEO by yoast. The Titles&Meta tabs for configuring the plugin were not showing.
What I did:
I tried a lot of things, but ultimately the studiopress support team suggested that I should reinstall wordpress. So I did: I re-installed wordpress 3.5, and then I installed the plugin. It worked. The titles&metas tabs are now showing.
I then installed genesis 1.9, and it stopped working. I then reactivated 2012 and it worked again.
I assume this means that the plugin and Genesis 1.9 do not work together . Has anyone else encountered this issue? And how was it resolved?
My website (now on 2012): Mom Goes OnlineJanuary 14, 2013 at 10:22 pm #12002
It works fine for me with Genesis 1.9.1, WP 3.5 and all studiopress child themes that I own (which is about 10). Yoast is a great developer and has worked close with StudioPress for his SEO plugin. I doubt it is a plugin conflict.January 14, 2013 at 11:30 pm #12006
@laura - I concur with what buddy_boy8403 said. WordPress SEO works fine with Genesis 1.9.1. Yoast himself runs his site on Genesis, which I am sure he updated by now, so there's no inherent conflict. Things like this often come down to either a plugin conflict or a bad server setup or a customization in your child theme that went off kilter. Have you tried deactivating all other plugins? Have you tried switching your child theme to the Genesis Sample Child theme? Both of these steps are standard debugging techniques.
I also a little confused about your statement that you "reactivated 2012" - that's not an official version, so do you mean that you switched back to Genesis 1.8.2? or a prior version of WordPress SEO? or something else?
January 15, 2013 at 12:13 am #12012
@bill @buddy boy - I don't have anything installed but wordpress 3.5 and yoast's plugin. At which point in time the plugin works. When I then install genesis 1.9.1, the plugin stops working. When I then remove genesis 1.9 (and go back to the wordpress default theme 2012), the plugin works again. I have no idea what is causing it, but it can't be another plugin (as I don't have any other plugin), or a child theme customisation (as I have no child theme installed). It could be a bad server setup - I use Westhost (also recommended by Yoast), and used their Softaculous button to install wordpress.
I am sure Yoast is a great developer (hence why I want to use his plugin), and that it works with genesis 1.9. It just doesn't work for me with the most basic set-up, so I am trying to figure out why as I really want to use his plugin. Any suggestions you might have as to where the problem might be are welcome!
Jennifer from the studiopress team is looking into this as well - it works for her too, but she has access to my setup and hasn't been able to find the cause of the problem yet.January 15, 2013 at 12:19 am #12013
Let me take a guess: start by installing a child theme. Grab the free Sample Child theme and upload it. Then do this:
1) Starting with the theme Twenty Twelve activated...
2) Deactivate WP SEO
3) Activate the sample child theme
4) Activate WP SEO
5) Post back thanking me or giving more clues
January 15, 2013 at 12:37 am #12014
well I really hope I will be thanking you very soon... but one quick question before I execute your steps: what is 'the free sample child theme'? I have a genesis.zip, a magazine.zip and a genesis-sample.zip. Is it the genesis-sample.zip you want me to use?January 15, 2013 at 12:47 am #12015January 15, 2013 at 2:01 am #12019
I so wanted to be able to thank you profusely (after having done some victory dancing over here). Unfortunately it did not work.
I am not sure what clues I can give you. I did exactly what you told me:
1) Had 2012 theme as active
2) Deactivated the wordpress SEO plugin
3) Installed magazine child theme
4) activated wordpress SEO theme -> it did not show the titles&meta tabs
5) re-activated the 2012 theme
6) the wordpress SEO theme showed the title & meta tabsJanuary 15, 2013 at 3:54 am #12024
You don't need Yoasts plugin with Genesis as the Framework includes SEO settings already. Why complicate it?
I actually used SEO data transporter and moved my SEO settings from Yoast to Genesis because Yoasts plugin cuased sitemap errors. Errors which have gone totally since making the move.
Volunteer who’s written 1814 tutorials & 3000+ Code Snippets for members – Not For Hire.January 15, 2013 at 4:37 am #12025
I was wondering also about if I should use one of these "recommended" SEO Plugins. Why would I need one of them if Genesis already had it built in? I was thinking about the All-in-One SEO Pack, but frankly, I hardly know what to do with it anyway.
Any opinions? Sorry if this question is too elementary. I am a newbie
(Genesis with Serenity Child Theme)January 15, 2013 at 8:37 am #12040
@laura - Is WordPress SEO still active? If you want help debugging something, you need to keep a situation stable at least long enough for people to check. A few things to check:
1) Are you using Genesis 1.9.1? If not, please upgrade.
2) Do you have settings in Genesis for Google plus authorship? If so, delete them.
3) Just to confirm, when you say "titles&meta tabs", you are referring to the tabs that appear when you click on the SEO->Titles & Meta menu? Can you post a link to a screenshot of what you see? You can upload the image to your media folder and grab the link and post it.
Post back with the results. Also, if you are trying to chase this down in multiple places, that's not a good route, as you'll be given different sets of things to try. It's best to pick 1 dance partner and not change until you move on to a new one and leave the old one behind. What you've done here shows that it is connected to a difference in themes, so it is probably tied to #1 or #2 above.
@braddalton - In my opinion, WordPress SEO has at least 1 critical advantage over Genesis SEO, so I don't view it as a complication but an improvement.
@jennifer - I'd go with WordPress SEO. I think Laura's problems are unusual, so I wouldn't let that deter you. When I have the time (hopefully over next few weeks), I'll publish an article I wrote about why WordPress SEO is much better than Genesis SEO, especially for new sites. Both do a competent job on the basics of SEO. But Yoast goes an important step further and integrates an XML sitemap into his SEO settings. That's the critical difference. I don't think AIOSEO does that, so while it probably does a competent job on SEO basics, that's a big missing feature.
January 15, 2013 at 4:55 pm #12146
@bill - the problem has just been resolved by Jennifer Baumann from the Studiopress theme. As you pointed out earlier, the problem is not with Genesis (I was indeed using 1.9.1) nor with the plugin, but it was a server setting. I needed to increase the memory in php.ini. And now it works
I wanted to thank you for all your help - I really appreciate it! I must say I am extremely impressed with the Studiopress team as well as with this forum - I am a complete novice online, and you are all making my journey possible - it is nice to know there is help when you need it! I hope one day I can help back!
@jennifer - I have been told over and over that WordPress SEO is a great plugin which makes life easier for newbies like us (and I don't know about you, but I need all the help I can get :-). Yoast also has a tutorial on how to set yourself up for SEO success, and that is what I am following. As Bill said, normally the installation is easy - my situation was just unusual and due to some server set-up. So do not let that deter you. But if you do encounter an issue - the support here is absolutely fantastic!
OK - I am off to do a celebratory dance (again)January 15, 2013 at 5:26 pm #12153
Thanks to all of you for the advice!January 15, 2013 at 7:27 pm #12177
@laura - Thanks for the follow up. Your php.ini must have had a very low memory setting for this to have caused a problem given that you an installation with very few plugins. Generally, hosts that have low settings for 1 resources have them for others, so keep this in mind when you hit another bump in your journey.
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