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March 16, 2018 at 10:16 pm #218002BillIrvineMember
Hello folks... (new here)
I've recently inherited a disastrous implementation of DIVI as I took up a marketing-lead role at a B2B telecom tech company. In planning for a complete redesign, we're sticking with WordPress... but am gravitating to the Genesis framework, for all the obvious reasons.
First question, among the available themes, which are better choices for a 30+ page website (30 1st and 2nd level pages, with dozens of landing pages not in the menu)?
Second, since the rapid creation of new marketing pages will be necessary (once all the CSS is locked in), I plan on using Visual Composer. Is this the best choice for Genesis where options/flexibility are important?
Thanks.
March 17, 2018 at 1:07 pm #218027ErikaParticipantHi Bill,
Kreativ Pro, Studio Pro or Smart Passive Income will probably be good themes for what you are seeking. As for Visual Composer, I can't give an unbiased opinion about it, because I am all for coding website the old fashioned way 🙂
March 17, 2018 at 1:56 pm #218028BillIrvineMemberIn a perfect world, I'd be hand-coding my pages as well. But with 60+ pages to create and an average of 1-2 new ones every week for a team of 2... well. 😉
Thanks.
March 17, 2018 at 2:30 pm #218029ErikaParticipantI imagine those 60+ pages don’t have entirely unique layouts, so really you’d just need a few templates coded you can reuse over and over. Visual Composer will probably require you to freshly design every new page, which is working harder, not smarter, especially if you want the same layouts you’ve already made. Also, any theme can handle an unlimited amount of pages, so don’t worry about that.
March 17, 2018 at 8:01 pm #218035BillIrvineMemberWhile I've not used visual composer directly, it's my understanding that it has a template system/library similar to the (ugh) DIVI builder.
And apparently, Visual Composer is now called WPBakery. And yes, it has a rather flexible template library for saving layouts.
March 18, 2018 at 5:40 am #218039Victor FontModeratorVisual Composer inserts shortcodes into your content just like Divi. Right now, it is not compatible with WordPress 5.0 and Gutenberg. If you're doing this for a client, your client will hate you if you ever move away from each other, because Visual Composer will leave a mess behind that is not easy to clean up. If you're doing this for yourself, then go for it.
As it is when Gutenberg is released to production in the very near future, no pre-Gutenberg content will be compatible with its visual editor. Everything has to be converted to content blocks to make it compatible. There's a lot of work coming and Visual Composer is just an additional layer of complexity that you're not going to enjoy.
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Have you requested your free website audit yet?March 18, 2018 at 7:39 am #218047BillIrvineMemberThis is for a corporate B2B site, for ourselves, not a client.
Once complete, at some point, people other than myself will be adding to existing pages, or creating new pages.
Part of the reason for sticking with WP and finding the best possible combination of framework/theme and page-builder is our rather large legacy of hundreds of blog posts that bring in more than 50% of new visitors, and the future need for non-coders to add/create content. If someone has a better idea, I'm open.
March 18, 2018 at 8:27 am #218052Andrea RennickMemberWhat on earth are you adding to pages that you need new templates for?
Users should just be able to go to Pages -> Add New or Pages - >Edit and just use the editor there.
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March 18, 2018 at 8:32 am #218056ErikaParticipantYou need to hire a permanent developer or find a freelancer to handle the design as soon as possible. A page builder might seem faster, cheaper and easier, but it does equal a lot of problems in the long run as Victor pointed out. For professional organizations especially, it's always better to rely on a person who is skilled in this area than a program. If WordPress/Genesis ever decides to become permanently incompatible with a particular program you've already used to build hundreds of pages/posts... yikes. Now that's a mess.
March 18, 2018 at 8:32 am #218057ErikaParticipantAndrea, I was wondering the same thing! If creating new posts/pages is the sole issue, that can be done right from the admin dashboard.
March 18, 2018 at 10:23 am #218062BillIrvineMember>> What on earth are you adding to pages
>> that you need new templates for?A/B testing of landing pages for new marketing campaigns.
>> You need to hire a permanent developer
>> or find a freelancerThat's what got us into trouble in the first place. The result (in both cases) was a DIVI deployment with impossible to unravel modifications to the parent theme.
March 18, 2018 at 10:45 am #218064ErikaParticipantI meant a real developer, who knows code.
March 19, 2018 at 7:31 pm #218115BillIrvineMember>> Kreativ Pro, Studio Pro or Smart Passive Income
I had a look at those theme suggestions, most of them remind me of this: http://adventurega.me/bootstrap/ -- too much lazy load, video backgrounds, and parallax. While nice from a designer's perspective, not right for a B2B site.
March 19, 2018 at 8:04 pm #218116BillIrvineMemberLooking deeper into a couple of the themes, is Genesis capable of only loading resources necessary for a given page?
For example, in a sample "full page" layout of Studio Pro, it's a simple page of text, but a slew of JS and CSS resources that aren't being used are loaded. Resulting in a hideous PageSpeed score.
March 20, 2018 at 1:48 am #218119hacksumo_proofMemberWhitespace Pro so features ready and versatile that I can go over it for a whole day.
White space pro theme is one of the recent themes that is designed for showing off your writing style.A great header for your picture or your company slogan, elegantly spaced articles layout and social buttons that’s it. Can an author ask for more? This is by far the most beautiful and responsive theme I have ever seen. If writing is your niche, whitespace is your theme.
March 20, 2018 at 8:08 am #218131BillIrvineMember>> Whitespace Pro so features ready and versatile
There is no such theme in the library. Besides, the original question was specific to a B2B site, not a site for a blog author.
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