February 14, 2013 at 2:35 pm #20388
This is not the new IDX Broker Platinum? You are right, I am misunderstood...
Is this IDX Broker Platinum?
I was told by IDX Broker Platinum the listings would provide SEO benefit to the parent domain by being present on the domain. If they don't push them with domain mapping to the parent domain there is no SEO benefit. Anyone that links to a property is not backlinking to the domain.
What happens if the property goes off the market, how are they handling the absence of a once existent url? If there are links passing juice to the url then it dies...
Social Media passes nothing through subdomains and google is becoming more involved with social media.
I paid my $99 this morning to idx broker. I need a product I can use when I can't use Seo Rets. They are only in like 90 boards but growing. I do stuff nationally.
IDX Broker is still in beta though. Setting up a domain map program shouldn't be impossible. It's necessary though. I mean indexing pages is the name of the game for immediate results; however, gaining backlinks gets the site ranked higher when it does index. Do you know what I mean?
Ed you know a lot about platinum, do you develop with the product?February 14, 2013 at 2:38 pm #20389
I clicked your link Ed, dumb question. However, you are the first developer I have seen that uses FW not DW. I'm not a lone. Perhaps next time we hit the forums in a post we can both defend FW. As I know a couples... million devs that would bash it LOLFebruary 14, 2013 at 3:36 pm #20397
Joseph, I appreciate you concern but until whatever it is you are concerned about has negative impact on SEO, lead generation and return on investment I will stick with what I have.
And in my case my domain is HickoryRealEstate.com, my IDX Broker content is at the www subdomain on their server. It appears seamless to most, and google indexes plenty of it each day. Google also serves up plenty of it as 1st place and 1st page results for long tail keywords searches. I love them for doing that.
Esse quam videriFebruary 14, 2013 at 3:38 pm #20399
IDX Broker Platinum handles the subdomain the same way as the older version of IDX Broker.
They do provide benefit to the primary "domain" but not necessarily the primary subdomain. Everything is indexed under yourdomain.com. But remember that "www" is a subdomain, just like "idx" is. (www.yourdomain.com and yourdomain.com could be two separate sites if you wanted them to be) So when you link to a WordPress page, you're building link juice to your "www" subdomain. When you link to a property, you're building juice to the "idx" subdomain. So in some ways, it's like optimizing two different sites that happen to look the same.
What IDX Broker was telling you is basically that if you do site:yourdomain.com you see results from both "www" and "idx". It used to be that your site might be at http://www.yourdomain.com and your idx pages were at yourdomain.idxbroker.com. The way it is now, they are both on your domain, but on separate subdomains.
When a property goes off the market theres a page that says "sorry this listing has gone off the market" or something like that.
http://www.ExpandingDesigns.com – Custom WordPress websites built on the Genesis Framework.February 14, 2013 at 3:41 pm #20402
Joseph, just make sure you let them know you want Platinum. Platinum is actually still in Beta and most of their existing users have not made the switch. There's no need whatsoever to use the old. It's good, but Platinum is better. By the way, I commend you for choosing this product.
Esse quam videriFebruary 14, 2013 at 3:45 pm #20407
DP's site is a good example of "www" being a subdomain of its own. He's using "hickoryrealestate.com" for wordpress and then using "www" for his IDX subdomain. You can name the subdomain whatever you want "idx", "search", "properties", etc...
The only reason I don't like using "www" is because if someone adds "www" to one of your WordPress links it will 404.
http://www.hickoryrealestate.com/local-market-experts-serving-the-greater-hickory-metro.html - this 404s because its trying to look for the page on IDX Broker's server, since you CNAMEd "www" to the IDX servers.
There's certainly nothing wrong with that method, and it makes a cleaner looking URL, I just prefer to use something like "idx" or "property" and use "www" for WordPress.
http://www.ExpandingDesigns.com – Custom WordPress websites built on the Genesis Framework.February 14, 2013 at 3:57 pm #20409
ED, I thought long and hard about giving up www for that reason. And, if you have a lot of indexed content out there using www I would not recommend it at all. When I first got IDX Broker I used "search" as my subdomain to avoid visitors clicking www indexed content from landing on IDX Broker's not so soft and not so friendly 404 page. After a couple of years I had no virtually no www legacy content left indexed out there, so I switched when the move to Platinum made my "search" subdomain obsolete. It was fairly easy setting up redirects to handle the indexed "search" clicks and land the at the new www search page.
Esse quam videriFebruary 14, 2013 at 4:11 pm #20411
I want to make sure we all discuss this as what is best for clients/ourselves. Not so much proving which product is better.
Using www. as the subdomain is a bad idea. The first thing you do when you start SEO'ing a site is redirect the subdomains to the main domain. If you use www. to list your properties, doesn't that still leave duplicates of your actual pages.
The issue is not duplicate content. The issue is that people can now link to the www. and the example.com versions. This can slow down ranking.
I have been using SEO RETS for awhile. I can tell you that from extensive experience, the competition levels for long tail keywords is almost never enough to require page rank. Realtor, Homes, Trulia, and Zillow typically rank first page and give me a run for my money.
I see that as a big draw back; however, because of that your site does have a few major advantages I was overlooking at first. Most ranking is by SEO. Few people ever really link back to the sites. When they do, the link is discounted as Panda spam by google unless it's a major PR site; which, they understand subdomains etc... Your site's structure (internal link) is perfect. It's getting indexed on every single listing w/o bringing the page rank on your main site down. I admit, when you have the listings ON your site (literally) you can pull too much PR out of page easily if you don't know what you are doing.
Those are two observations from looking at it from the standpoint of an SEO.February 14, 2013 at 4:14 pm #20412
DP, make sure you sign up for google webmaster tools and tell google which domain you prefer (the non www.)February 14, 2013 at 4:29 pm #20415
Joseph, once again I appreciate your concern. I use the option that says let google decide and they get it right every time. They have not once indexed my wordpress content using the www subdomain. Never.
BTW, long tail searches that return indexed off the market listings (detail pages) land on a page that uses the global wrapper. I have no problem that arrangement. They need to be looking for something else anyway 😉
Esse quam videriFebruary 14, 2013 at 4:31 pm #20416
LOLFebruary 14, 2013 at 6:36 pm #20430
4Ward, I am not ignoring your question. I think the robust discussion that followed it probably has already answered it. If you have any other questions that remain I will be happy to ante up my 2 cents worth.
Esse quam videriFebruary 15, 2013 at 9:48 am #20515
Any update as to when Agentpress might be may responsive? I started a build (not realizing it wasn't responsive) and don't want to continue working on it if responsive is a ways off. I'd rather start over on a responsive theme if it ain't gonna happen for AP for a long time.February 15, 2013 at 11:08 am #20533
Hey DP, I didn't think you were ignoring me. I was taking in everything being discussed here. Sounds like some differing of opinion, but it gives me some food to chew on before I make a decision. I just want to make sure that I steer my client in the right direction on which product to purchase for their IDX/RETS system.
Are you familiar with http://displet.com/idxrets-search/? This is another solution that I saw recommended out there.
Thanks for all the help.
TyyFebruary 15, 2013 at 11:16 am #20536
4WardMotion, I would suggest using a solution you know someone personally has used. The one thing about the idx solutions is that the realtor boards from location to location are difficult to work with. Sometimes they will send duplicate listings, missing listings, etc.. in their update. They don't allow idx solutions to pull sold/expired, so when their feed is flawed, so is the results on the idx; however, experienced companies that are normally in a lot of boards are accustom to coding around that.
I have used dozens of solutions. There are a lot more that are missing listings then there are those that are right. You can do a simple audit by having the agent go to his MLS and select "active" as listing type. Don't put anything else in as a parameter. You will get "X" results. Then do the same on the feed.
I wouldn't use anything other than something the agent is familiar with or something I have on good credibility. If the agent is familiar with IDX Broker (most are) then they will have the tendency to blame the solution. If you take them to something unheard of...
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